Thought crimes in America.
Dec. 20th, 2011 11:56 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
dalesqlToday, in a courtroom in Boston Massachusetts, the so-called Cradle of Liberty, a man was convicted of several thought crimes and faces sentencing that could potentially include life in prison.
http://www.boston.com/Boston/metrodesk/2011/12/jury-reaches-verdict-tarek-mehanna-case/ItYrldEoXm1fBoKwFnN2RK/index.html?p1=News_links
He was convicted because he made speech on his web site and in person that supported various islamoterrorist causes, and that he traveled to Yemen where he tried and failed to make contact with islamoterrorist groups for training. Plus he was convicted of lying to federal law enforcement officers who were investigating him.
This is all the very finest nightsoil of a well fed bullock. The guy holds political opinions that I find revolting. But many other americans also hold and espouse political opinions that I find revolting. That doesn't mean they deserve to go to jail for being wrong. He didn't get charged with sending money or material to terrorist groups. He didn't get charged with making bombs, shooting anyone, or any sort of actual physical act that brought harm to another american.
That lying to federal officers charge. Hooo Boy! Did you know that FBI agents are not allowed to video or audiotape their interviews? They are required to keep notes of their interviews, and those notes are the legal record of that interview. If the agents find that someone else is taping the interview, they are required to immediately stop the interview until the recording device is turned off. Official FBI regulations. And guess what, if the written notes of the interview taken by the interviewee conflict with the written notes of the agents... guess who the courts tend to believe, and which gets excluded from evidence in trial.
Not to mention, if you deny that you committed a crime in one of these interviews, and they later convict you of that crime, it's an automatic guilty to the lying to federal officials charge. And no, there is no notice given to you by the federal officials that this is a possible hazard of the interview. Even here in Boston, with it's well known track record of corrupt and perjuring FBI agents, the judges still give 100% credibility to the agents. So just remember, that pesky 5th amendment thingy. That doesn't apply to federal police official investigations anymore. The 4th amendment has also been pretty deeply undermined and had a bunch of big holes hacked through it.
It's a sad day for american liberties. And look, the feds have locked up an incompetent wanna-be islamoterrorist. B.F.D. Great job. Not.
http://www.boston.com/Boston/metrodesk/2011/12/jury-reaches-verdict-tarek-mehanna-case/ItYrldEoXm1fBoKwFnN2RK/index.html?p1=News_links
He was convicted because he made speech on his web site and in person that supported various islamoterrorist causes, and that he traveled to Yemen where he tried and failed to make contact with islamoterrorist groups for training. Plus he was convicted of lying to federal law enforcement officers who were investigating him.
This is all the very finest nightsoil of a well fed bullock. The guy holds political opinions that I find revolting. But many other americans also hold and espouse political opinions that I find revolting. That doesn't mean they deserve to go to jail for being wrong. He didn't get charged with sending money or material to terrorist groups. He didn't get charged with making bombs, shooting anyone, or any sort of actual physical act that brought harm to another american.
That lying to federal officers charge. Hooo Boy! Did you know that FBI agents are not allowed to video or audiotape their interviews? They are required to keep notes of their interviews, and those notes are the legal record of that interview. If the agents find that someone else is taping the interview, they are required to immediately stop the interview until the recording device is turned off. Official FBI regulations. And guess what, if the written notes of the interview taken by the interviewee conflict with the written notes of the agents... guess who the courts tend to believe, and which gets excluded from evidence in trial.
Not to mention, if you deny that you committed a crime in one of these interviews, and they later convict you of that crime, it's an automatic guilty to the lying to federal officials charge. And no, there is no notice given to you by the federal officials that this is a possible hazard of the interview. Even here in Boston, with it's well known track record of corrupt and perjuring FBI agents, the judges still give 100% credibility to the agents. So just remember, that pesky 5th amendment thingy. That doesn't apply to federal police official investigations anymore. The 4th amendment has also been pretty deeply undermined and had a bunch of big holes hacked through it.
It's a sad day for american liberties. And look, the feds have locked up an incompetent wanna-be islamoterrorist. B.F.D. Great job. Not.
